New Rules & Decisions-May 22-14:00st Chat Meeting

Administrators Present: Adolfo, Javier, Martina, Craig.
Administrators Absent: Ysa, Peter, Lim, Don-Nadie.
Others Present: Anna-Sophie(Feuerwolf) and cBishop.
Due to absences, the business items below have not been decided. Decisions will be appended once votes from absent Administrators are added.

1) Availability of Administrators: (See availability posts made by some Administrators)
General availabilities for Administration Meetings were stated in prior posts or in this mtg. as follows:
(times stated are server times=st)
Adolfo-Sat. and Sun.-most times
Javier-Sat. and Sun.-most times
Martina-Sat. and Sun.-most times, (Sometimes not available Sat.)
Ysa- often not available Sat. & Sun. No other times offered.
Peter-Mon-Thur: 21:00-22:30(23:00), Fri: 22:00-, Sat/Sun-unclear
Lim-unavailable until after Thur. (5/27). No other days/times offered thus far.
Don-Nadie-No availabilities stated
Craig-Mon-Fri: 00:00-04:00, 21:00-24:00 Sat: 00:00-04:00, 11:00-15:00 Sun: 21:00-24:00
Appends:
Martina-weekends are not good for next two months. Available Weekdays except Thursday-21:00-
Ysa-Mon-Fri-anytime
Peter-as stated above
Lim-Saturday-sometimes 14:00st ok, Mon-14:00, Wed-nights, other weekdays-unclear
Don-Nadie-no change

2)Team Lineup Submittal-how to make invisible to other teams until Sat-18:00st publish/posting:
Two suggestions were made:
a) Ask Don-Nadie if he would act as fair 'go-between'. Idea would be for captain/vc to send team lineup via email to Don-Nadie anytime before Sat-18:00st deadline. Once Don-Nadie has recieved all team lineups (or Sat-18:00st arrives), Don-Nadie would then send these lineups either directly to CC-Lineups Room or to an administrator (Javier/Adolfo) to post them in CC-Lineups Rm.
b) Captains/VC post lineup within Private Team Rm anytime before Sat-18:00st deadline. All Admins are assumed not to look into other private team rooms except for their own team. One Admin (I suggest Javier)-is only Admin who at Sat-18:00st goes to each Private Team Rm to collect & transfer lineup post to CC Tourn. Lineup Rm.
Adolfo, Javier, Martina, and Craig vote to ask Don-Nadie whether he'd be agreeable to Plan A above.
Depending on Don-Nadie's response & absent Admin votes, this Item will be decided in next Admin meeting.
Appends: Don-Nadie responds he cannot take added duty of a) proposal-so this is 'dead'
Ysa-accepts Plan a) & b)
Lim-would have accepted plan a). He & Peter mention again hope that hidden lineup could be effected-which all had agreed, but doesn't seem possible at present-because no programmer?
No action has been decided.

3)Add Guestbook to site (suggested by Anna-Spohie(Feuerwolf)):
Yes=Add guestbook, to be located between Chatbox & Humour section of site.
Yes-4-Adolfo, Javier, Martina, Craig.
Appends: Peter, Khai, and Ysa add Yes. Yes=7 & is accepted.

4)Abusive Players: Case of Chessir-banned from Playchess chat:
Questions posed:
a) Should we ban Chessir from CiberzonaChess Chat?
b) Should we issue Yellow Card?
c) If ban from CiberzonaChat is issued, how long would ban be?
Appends:
Lim-suggests issuance of Yellow Card to Chessir (but I believe he may have believed abusive behavior occurred in Ciberzona rather than Playchess-need to ask him)
Peter-agrees to whatever SysOp suggests
Ysa-unclear
No actions have been decided

5)Future Abusive Players: What actions should be taken?
Appends:
Lim-Issuance of Yellow card
Peter-agrees to whatever SysOp suggests
Ysa-Ban abusive members within Ciberzona from Ciberzona. (Duration?)
No actions have been decided.

Items #4, #5, and other Items within Craig's Future Tasks & Rule Suggestions-Pg 2 (May 20-15:00st) were not acted on due to need of some Administrators to leave.

6)Date/Time of next Administration Mtg:
Yes=Sunday-14:00st
Yes=4-Adolfo, Javier, Martina, Craig.
Appends:
Martina-Weekends not good, so I (Craig) assume Sunday-14:00st not good.
Lim-Sunday not good
Peter-Weekends (Sunday) not good
Ysa-Weekends (Sunday) not good
Will have to go with Sunday-14:00st unless arrangements can be changed among Admins.

End of Business
Absent Administrators-please add your votes & comments in a post to this so that Craig may append this
post & place in Rules Section.
Append-Craig: I made a mistake, I intended on Absent Administrators to add comments & votes to Administrative Suggestions Room & then I would append this post & place in Rules Room, sorry.

Hi
Sorry I did not attend the meeting as you know the reason
I will state my comments below accordingly:
1) I will be available after Thurday, weekends will be the best time for me. Saturday , I mean, currently is fine. Only perharps sometimes , my family may go out to malls or late dinner(14st=8pm my time). Wednesday night and monday at 14st could be possible sometimes, if I don't have much homeworks which I think after my exams(Thurs) , there won't be much. Sunday is no good, other weekdays are not clear.
2)I will vote for a) just a question : do we send e-mail or servermail or forum mail? But, if possible, the best, will be to make a system which captains can send the lineup and will automated itself, though I don't know how.
3)Guestbook will be a good idea. But, perharps we can prevent abusive or insulting comments(guests could give bad comments sometimes in my opinion) ?
4)I think yellow card.
5) same as 4).
My avaiablitity for next meeting is sat 14st is the best. Sunday is completely not possible.
Khai

Hi Craig,
I checked my calendar and so I have noticed, that there will be a lot of events on week ends the next two month. So I have to take back my statement, that week end (Saturday/Sunday) will be best time for me for meeting.
I think it would be better for me, if it could be a week day (except Thuesday - chessclub), beginning about 21:00 st. Sorry, but I will get a lot of work on week ends the next time.
Thanks
Martina

We should post answers in admins room, not here...

I made a new topic in admins room where I posted my votes and thoughts:
https://ciberzonachess.forumotion.com/administrators-suggestions-box-f2/meeting-22-may-2010-votes-from-missing-admins-t697.htm#3127

I was thinking about my reply post for Craig about admins meetings but i replied in Rules as Craig said. I try to put my new topic there in admins room (if i can)

I thought I had asked absent Admins to post in Admin Suggestion Room & not Rules Rm. I then said I would append this info into the Rules Rm. (Just for future reference as Peter is correct-the debate info goes to suggestions, the rules themselves go here-Rules).